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bff phonecall

I keep telling people that Baptism is this big deal commitment I'm not ready to make (and likely never will be). But Confirmation sounds like you get this great gift! (Things one learns on Wikipedia.)

Researching a friend's baptism date led to conversation about the Immaculate Conception and whether there were other people who never sinned (Job, for example, insists he has committed no sin -- and even Paul says he is "blameless under the Law").

I attempted to find out if there's a name for the heresy of believing that Jesus sinned. We were excited to discover the Christadelphians but alas, 'twas not to be.
"To have a sin nature means that Jesus had a fallen, defiled, and unholy nature. I fail to see how an unholy person can offer a holy sacrifice sufficient to please an infinitely holy God. Of course, the Christadelphians say this is possible because, even though Jesus had a sin nature, He never committed a sin and He kept the Law therefore satisfying God." (emphasis mine)

-from one of the first Google hits I found
And from Wikipedia:
Rejection of some mainstream doctrines

Christadelphians reject a number of doctrines held by many other Christians, notably the immortality of the soul (see also mortalism; conditionalism), trinitarianism,[84][87] the personal pre-existence of Christ,[85][87] the baptism of infants,[101] the personhood of the Holy Spirit[84][85][86][87] and the present-day possession of the gifts of the Holy Spirit (see cessationism).[86][87][91] They believe that the word devil is a reference in the scriptures to sin and human nature in opposition to God, while the word satan is merely a reference to an adversary (be it good or bad). According to Christadelphians, these terms are used in reference to specific political systems or individuals in opposition or conflict. Hell (Hebrew: Sheol; Greek: Hades, Gehenna) is understood to refer exclusively to death and the grave, rather than being a place of everlasting torment (see also annihilationism).[93][109] Christadelphians do not believe that anyone will "go to Heaven" upon death. Instead, they believe that only Christ Jesus went to Heaven, and when he comes back to the earth the true believers will live in the Land of Israel which will be the Kingdom of God on Earth.[97][98] Christadelphians believe the doctrines they reject were introduced into Christendom after the first century in large part through exposure to pagan Greek philosophy,[110] and cannot be substantiated from the Biblical texts.[84][85][87]

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We also talked about that book I'm not enjoying much.

On page 18, the author says:
The biblical term "to know" is an elegant summing up of the intimate and in-depth understanding that grows over time in a sexual relationship. It means the opposite of whatever occurs in a one-night stand. (The Bible uses words such as "come in into you," "lie with," for loveless couplings.)
Given that English renditions of the story of Sodom use the verb "to know," my best friend looked it up in her Concordance. The Hebrew word ("yada") is in fact used in both those instances ("Now Adam knew Eve and she conceived and gave birth..." Gen 4.1 & "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them." ... Gen 19.5) One supposes it's POSSIBLE the Sodomites were being ironic... but the verb is also used in rape of the concubine in Judges, where the NRSV renders 19.25 as, "They wantonly raped her."

Yeah, we are not impressed.

(I am pleased to find there are online Concordances, though.)

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Expandthe incredibly true story of how it took me ~3.5hrs to bicycle to Walden Pond -- and ~2hrs to bicycle back )
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On my way to SCBC, Althea (FCS UCC) and another person jogged past me.  She asked me which church I was going to today, and I said, "Three over the course of the day, actually."  She joked, "It's the Coffee Hour, isn't it?  Admit it."

Owen actually opened today by asking us why we come to church -- and then asking what we sacrifice to come to church (e.g., sleeping in) and what we're willing to sacrifice to help the church continue to be this good thing (e.g., helping to teach Sunday School).  One of the things David mentioned valuing about church was "diversity of ideas," and I bit my tongue on arguing with that because I knew it was outside the scope of this conversation.  But when later he talked about churches he's been at that don't have good theology (e.g., preaching that if you just follow these certain rules, God will bless you), I did point out how that's interestingly in tension with what he had said previously, and I said that I was fairly certain that there are things I believe that if I said them here -- in this particular church, I said the church I'd gone to in college was a UCC/ABC merger, so I was well aware that were was diversity within the American Baptist denomination -- people wouldn't kick me out, but they would tell me that I was wrong, that this was a non-negotiable point; I said there are certain parameters within which we allow that "diversification" (David's word).

Following up on this, Pastor Vic talked about how the other area churches are really excited about getting together around Boston Pride, and he was very clear that while he respects these folks as colleagues and friends and looks forward to continuing to work with them, he and his ministerial staff are not going to be taking part in this thing.  He said that there are a lot of things in the Bible that he believes are "sociological," but he doesn't agree with folks like Tiffany and Molly that homosexuality is one of them, and I said, "Yes, that was definitely one of the issues I was thinking of," and for the remainder of Adult Ed (only like 10-15min, I think) I felt more like I was actively closeting than I have in a while (if ever) there.  That very first Coffee Hour when I asked Ross if he agreed with the pastor's statement that there were both Democrats and Republicans in the congregation, I'd wanted to say, "So as a bisexual libertarian, how at home would I feel in this congregation?" but I've mostly rationalized away my cowardice since then.

CHPC's bulletin included Julia Ward Howe "Mother's Day Proclamation," which I am so fucking sick of, so I was not starting Sunday morning worship off well.  Service was kinda meh, as usual, and I wasn't feeling connected to anyone at Coffee Hour, and I was really hungry, so after a few minutes I opted to go home.

I came home, ate lunch and did some internet (including emailing Pastor Vic about continuing the conversation about same-sex marriage, etc.) and then took a nap.

The lectionary text was 1 John 4:7-21.  Tiffany opened by saying, "Sometimes the lectionary gets it really right."
    She talked about having recently read one of those cutesy email forwards she usually deletes without reading.  It's a bunch of 4-8 year olds asked to define "love."
    Billy (age 8) said that love is his mom saying his name, said that there's something about the way your name sounds when it's said by someone who loves you, they say it "different" somehow -- "You just know that your name is safe in their mouth."  I immediately thought of this past Friday when I was in early 'cause it was a class day and Ian was down at his end of the hall and called "Lizzie," and I just heard it as a tender thing and it didn't occur to me until later that usually I would be irritated by that.  (I told some of you the story a few weeks ago of Ian parenthetically calling me Lizzie in an email and how I had a mini-meltdown in reaction because I was already feeling irritated at him for not responding to concerns I articulated, and although I know he means it as affectionate teasing, back when he first started calling me that I kept telling him I didn't like it and it was like he refused to hear that as a serious concern, so you see why in that context it totally set me off.)
    She also talked about how (God's) mother love is a "fierce and faithful" love -- not just that tender gentle love we often associate with mothers.

During Prayers of the People, Jeremy said that every year when June 1/July 1 comes and Methodist pastors get moved around, he and Chelsea (his wife) are (jokingly) like, "Those jerks, leaving..."  He said, "Now we're the jerks," and I think the entire congregation sat forward in their seats and started to get all choked up.

Later:
Tallessyn: "Speaking of jerks who are leaving..."
Tiffany: "I'd like to reframe that; there are no jerks during prayer time."

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ann1962 posted, "Happy Mother's Day to all the moms and all the other women who give someone somewhere love!"

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Ari and I discussed "Amazing Grace" (upon hearing that someone had theological problems with it, my immediate reaction was, "But we sing it at Cambridge Welcoming" -- we just change "wretch" to "soul," and Ari said she has long sung the less ableist "once was bound but now am free" instead of "once was blind but now I see").  We critiqued wikipedia's take on the "When we've been there ten thousand years" verse, and I learned that there is a WikiChristian, though it doesn't have the "He will my shield and portion be" verse (which I was reminded of because it's in Ari's hymnal, though her communities traditionally haven't sung that verse -- we totally sing it at Singspiration, though earlier in our conversation I had commented about how while WikiChristian calls God "he," the song itself doesn't gender God, but oops, that verse does).  Googling for that verse, I found a blogpost that includes another verse I've never heard of, which is apparently a Chris Tomlin addition.


CWM's Special Music tonight was Brian Wren's "Joyful Is the Dark."  Tallessyn said that it reminded her of womb imagery, and also talked about how after Easter we're all about the light and the brightness, but dark can be good, too, which I appreciated.
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I could write theses on the Whedonverse.
"You have enough emotional investment in this topic to carry you through the difficult writing process. You will finish, and it will be important work you do. This is the topic you must write on. Forget all that bad advice. Figure out how to do it. You need to do it."
Wheee, [livejournal.com profile] offbalance pimped my entry on this week’s Angel episode. [livejournal.com profile] zzrg suggested parallels to Greek mythology and a highly plausible theory for what causes people to see Jasmine’s true form. I *really* want a transcript so i can pull out all the Biblical and Greek myth stuff. (Though given all the “real” work i have to do, it’s probably just as well i can’t obsess over every word of this episode.) [livejournal.com profile] offbalance got me thinking hardcore about the Season 5 (Glory, Dawn-as-Key, etc.). I quoted copiously from various episodes and learned that LiveJournal limits comments to 4300 characters.

Apparently [livejournal.com profile] offbalance and i live in an alternate universe (which may or may not contain floating markets) in which we are popular. I have been friended by 5 people whom i don’t know in “real life” in the past week. As [livejournal.com profile] offbalance says, "Well, they friended you because you rock that much, and the word is spreading like wildfire." The same is true of her, of course.

My mommy is cute. She IMed me around 5. I was playing with small children after a full day of classes, so my away message was "long day". She wrote:
"long day"? so you're sleeping?
hiding under the bed?
I love my mommy. :)

Joe IMed me tonight:
JoeyD341: jinkies Velma, a clue....
VelmasLizard: I'm full of clues dear, is there a mystery in particular?
JoeyD341: not one in particular...
JoeyD341: how have you been wonderful friend?
JoeyD341: I was thinking about you earlier as I was playing "Iowa" on the guitar....
I love my boy.

For I woke up from a nightmare that I could not stand to see,
You were a-wandering out on the hills of Iowa, and you were not thinking of me.


Last Friday we were chatting and i asked him about his summer plans and he said:
JoeyD341: I will be back and forth between home and here
JoeyD341: working for advising
VelmasLizard: fun
VelmasLizard: I would say we should hang out sometime, but i know better than to expect that to actually happen.
JoeyD341: aw
JoeyD341: we will I'm sure
JoeyD341: :-)
VelmasLizard: Dude, last summer you had a permanent place of residence and we couldn't swing it.
JoeyD341: yeah - but my permanent place this year will be [his address in our mutual hometown deleted, with the notation for the general public that last summer he had an apartment near UNH -- where he goes to college]
I actually have hope that we’ll hang out sometime during the 6 weeks that i am home. We shall see.

This reminds me. LizardGirl is my default username. I got creative for AIM and LJ, but things like the Jolt and anything else that requires a username gets LizardGirl. This surprises people. Two peers so far in my life have nicknamed me “lizard.” It was my pre-birth name from my parents, though. It stuck, so now i have a collection of charming lizard objects. Why was it my pre-birth name, you ask? Because of this comic. (The fact that i could find this comic online, starting with no knowledge as to when it was first published, in under 10 minutes -- maybe even under 5; i wasn’t counting -- is one of the reasons why i so adore the Internet.)

The Clothesline Project for SAFE was up across from Neilson because this is Sexual Abuse Awareness Week. (This is also the week that part of the AIDS quilt was up in the chapel and the week that included the Day of Silence.) Anyway, as i’m walking by, Doug pulls up and parks his car and we exchange greetings. He looks at the bright shirts on the clotheslines and says, “Coal tar.” He goes on to explain that without the development coal tar, none of the dyes to create these bright colors would exist. “You remind me of my father,” i say. “You know way too much about everything. That much knowledge should be spread over a number of people.” He thanks me and says, “You’re very sweet.” :)

It is also open campus. My room is too small for me to feel appropriate hosting a prospective, and it’s just as well since i’ll be in Boston all day Saturday and into Sunday.

American Lit class today:
J: “Icky.”
M: “For the prospectives, this is a technical term... ultimately derived from the Greek.”

Talking about art and culture, “Literature is at the top -- of course.” Michael put literature above entertainment and then above both, The Simpsons. “Which is neither literature nor entertainment?” -- rawk, Jessica! (We won’t even start on how Buffy is much higher art than The Simpsons.)

On why Pete takes Maggie out to nice places:
“He wants to get some.”
“Liz, would you say that again so I don’t have to?”

We were discussing Stephen Crane’s Maggie: A Girl of the Streets. One chapter opens with the sentence that the baby had died. “Steve... a little pathos.” Because yes, Michael is on a first-name basis with all these authors.

I need to read The Onion more often.

Amusement from [livejournal.com profile] traces:
also, know what is so not fair? how in my "public" entries i'm like "la la, ate this, read that, watched this..."

and in my entries reserved solely for the people that i call "friends," it's all "angst and devastation, oh misery, blah blah blah..."

that just seems wrong. one would think that i would be much nicer to my friends.

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