hermionesviolin: a closeup of a glossy apple (shining yellow close to the viewer, red along the edges) against a tan background (apples and honey)
Velveteen Rabbi recently posted a round-up of selichot posts from previous years.

In one, she wrote:
At our selichot services, we'll be using the prayer as a lead-in to a meditation around the radical idea that every single time/place we've missed the mark in our entire lives is always forgiven. Whenever I seriously think about that, it blows me away. Everything I've ever done wrong, in my relationships with other people, in my relationship with myself, in my relationship with God: all of it is forgiven. What would it mean to truly understand that, and to let all of that old baggage go?
My immediate reaction, of course, was, "Gee, that sounds familiar."

I'm also reminded of the conversation Shoshana and I once started to have about the issue of God forgiving you for sins you committed against other people.

We did John 3 at SCBC last night (as I mentioned), and I asked what does it mean to "believe in [Jesus]" (John 3:16) and didn't get a satisfactory answer -- nor do I have one myself (though I keep going back to Borg's point about "believe" meaning "to give one's heart to" and thus I move to an emphasis on relationship rather than doctrinal assent) -- though I continue to have discomfort with the idea of Jesus being necessary to save us from God sending us to eternal damnation (which was the idea that kept coming up from the other people in the group). Yeah, I'm reminded of my telling Pr. Lisa that no, I don't have anything written down about my Christology, in large part because I don't have a coherent Christology. And I'm still trying to make sense of Borg and Crossan's book on Paul.
hermionesviolin: (got an angel in my pants)
Tuesday night SCBC Bible Study is doing (most of) the Gospel of John. Chapter 3 tonight. In talking about "eternal life," Rev. Adrienne wanted to confirm that it was the Sadducees who didn't believe in Heaven (and this the Pharisees who did). I affirmed that the Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection (using the Subject Line mnemonic I learned from my bff). I also ended up mentioning the story where they ask Jesus about the hypothetical woman who's had 7 husbands, whose wife will be she in the resurrection -- to which Jesus says, "Y'all are missing the point."

Flo said, yes, we won't need marriage in Heaven, because we'll all be family.

My unspoken response was ... well, it was incoherent, but it centered on the fact that for many people, SEX is an important part of marriage.

I already had plans to exegete that passage in a pro-poly way, so there's a way in which that works for me -- about sex not being something that needs to be limited to one particular relationship, but is an experience that can be shared with many (I'm reminded of Desmond's frequent analogy to food) -- though it also has implications of that troubling idea that often shows up in queer theology that all our differences will be erased in the eschaton (relationships are particular, and ceremonies like marriage honor that particularity; relationships are neither identical nor interchangeable, and that is not only okay that is GOOD).

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