hermionesviolin: black and white photo of Emma Watson as Hermione, with text "hermionesviolin" (hermione by oatmilk)
[personal profile] hermionesviolin
At group last Thursday, Sean said he was surprised that I wasn't all excited about the Inauguration, 'cause I do so much church and this is ritual, is community meaning-making. I laughed, and said that I'm really not into ritual though I've been developing a respect for it. I'm glad I watched it, though.

I came in partway through Rick Warren's invocation. I'll have commentary later when I get a transcript. I liked the bits about civility in disagreement and suchlike.

I am a devout, practicing, Christian and it's weird to me that we have these explicitly God-invoking speeches at national events. (It has been pointed out that all three major religious speakers this Inauguration are Christian -- Bishop Gene Robinson, Episcopalian; Rick Warren, evangelical Protestant; Rev. Joseph E. Lowery, Methodist -- which apparently is not necessarily usual.) He ended with the (Protestant, "trespasses") Lord's Prayer, and I mouthed along (I'll ignore the call to stand for the national anthem, but start saying "Our Father," and instinctively I start mouthing along, and bowing my head), but it felt really weird to me that this very specifically Christian (and one flavor of Christian) thing was being said at a national event. (I appreciated Obama's attempts at inclusion in his speech, though "Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus ... and nonbelievers" was definitely imperfect, especially since the "nonbelievers" sounded almost tacked on to me, even though I knew of course the speech had been written well in advance -- I know that trying to list everyone doesn't work, and coming up with inclusive language that doesn't sound so vague as to be meaningless is a challenge, but hey, I can crit.)

Yo-Yo Ma looked so joyful. (And the morning shows had been talking about how cold it was out on the Mall -- though Jean behind me just said that it was in the 30s, which as far as I'm concerned is just normal winter weather. Carl on CNBC SquawkBox this morning said the Post had crunched some data and if the expected 2 million people were all on the Mall, each person would get 2 1/2 square feet of space.) In contrast, I wasn't all that taken with Aretha Franklin's performance later, I think largely because I so prize being able to hear and understand all the words in a song, and with the backup singers and whatever I often couldn't.

We were watching it on ABC, and shortly after noon one of the commentators mentioned that the official White House website had changed, as noon had passed in the East, Barack Obama was now the President (which given that he hadn't taken the Oath of Office yet seemed a bit strange to me).

President "to" the United States? Really, Mr. Chief Justice? (redeem147 said of Obama, "He didn't stumble. He was being fed the wrong words, and he knew it." [Addendum: More from Ann Althouse.])

sarah_p said [locked, link for my reference], "Hee, Obama just said that forty-four Americans have taken the oath of office....I mean, yes, the oath has been given forty-four TIMES, but Cleveland served non-consecutive terms! HE IS ONLY ONE AMERICAN. Didn't anyone proof this speech? :D"

I was not particularly impressed by Lowery's benediction, but I did love that he ended with Micah. I'd actually been singing that to myself this morning (CWM version -- "What does Love require of you? But to seek [do? I keep forgetting -- and I didn't look it up before posting the other night] justice, and love kindness, and walk humbly with your God..."). [Addendum: After it was over, MaryAlice said something pleased and approving about the benediction, and I almost said that he's Methodist, of "my" denomination -- except that for all that CWM is "home," and thus I've been hearing lots about Lowery not just because we like his politics/theology but because he's a Methodist, I'm not actually a Methodist. Heh.]

Date: 2009-01-20 06:35 pm (UTC)
ext_9121: (alleluia - religion obsession)
From: [identity profile] reflectedeve.livejournal.com
though "Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus ... and nonbelievers" was definitely imperfect, especially since the "nonbelievers" sounded almost tacked on

Agreed, but I have to say, I'm still at a point where I really appreciate being included, period, particularly after all that Christian-and-one-God-specific talk throughout the ceremony. I also cheered quietly when he said "Christian and Muslim" in one breath; he sounded strong on that to me, and I think it's seriously important, particularly after some of the awful anti-Muslim rhetoric of the election season (and the last eight years in general).
Edited Date: 2009-01-20 06:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-20 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
Yeah, I thought it was really neat that he used "Christian and Muslim" as a twinned phrase, rather than the usual "Christian and Jewish, and now let us list various other religious traditions."

Date: 2009-01-20 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarah-p.livejournal.com
as noon had passed in the East, Barack Obama was now the President (which given that he hadn't taken the Oath of Office yet seemed a bit strange to me).

That's one of those weird little tidbits of government--the Constitution states that at noon on the 20th, the new president and VP officially assume power, so even if the oath hasn't been administered, the transfer is complete. That's why the oath of office is always given around noon, to line up with that.

Date: 2009-01-20 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
Huh. The morning shows were talking about "noon exactly, as per the Constitution," but I just assumed that meant that the Constitution said that the oath of office had to be administered at noon exactly.

Date: 2009-01-21 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sk8eeyore.livejournal.com
I was interested in what you'd think of the invocation, 'cause I was fascinated by the way Warren alluded to all three Abrahamic faiths at both the beginning and end of the prayer while still very specifically praying in the name of Jesus. I know that can't count as "inclusive" for everyone, and I get that, but I also get how that's just about as "inclusive" as a traditional/"conservative"/evangelical prayer can get, being part of that family of the Church myself. (I myself would have an extremely hard time offering prayer at such a public event and am not sure how I feel about it being done, precisely because I don't feel comfortable, or free, to offer/share in prayer that's not in the name of Jesus/Trinitarian.)

Anyhow, I endorse what I heard in that prayer, and am okay with the fact that I'm one of few on my flist who will feel that way.

Date: 2009-01-21 01:14 am (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (Default)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
It's interesting to see your thoughts - I thought Warren's invocation was pretty crap, honestly, both from a public speaking standpoint and from a "let's pretend to be inclusive while talking about Jesus" standpoint (which is partly my issues about the whole invocation thing, and partly my issues about some of his specific language - "we all belong to you, Lord" especially made me grit my teeth).

But "nonbelievers" had me grinning like a maniac, even though I don't self-identify as a nonbeliever (not like he's going to say "and nonbelievers, and sort-of--what-you-might-call-pagan-ish-types who don't buy into any of the established pagan structures"). It didn't feel tacked-on to me, more like he paused for emphasis, but then again I am predisposed to think well of him, so. I dunno.

And Yo-Yo Ma looked really happy, I noticed that as well.

Date: 2009-01-21 02:53 am (UTC)
ext_2351: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
I felt the same way, that he had paused for emphasis. But I only watched once so maybe on rewatch I'll feel different.

Profile

hermionesviolin: an image of Alyson Hannigan (who plays Willow Rosenberg) with animated text "you think you know / what you are / what's to come / you haven't even / BEGUN" (Default)
Elizabeth (the delinquent, ecumenical)

June 2025

S M T W T F S
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22 232425262728
29 30     

Style Credit

Page generated Jul. 16th, 2025 02:22 pm
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios