> > I also feel like I'm not allowed to quit yet, 'cause I was suppposed to read the New Testament full through and research the historical Jesus and the early Church and make an informed decision as to whether there was enough logic and evidence for me to make a faith leap. > Oh, dear Elizabeth. This is where it feels like our approaches to faith could never meet totally. Not that it's news to me, but it's always striking to me, when you say things like this, how different we are. Though I would like to suggest some Church Fathers for you to read 'cause I'd love to see what you make of their logic, and to me they had the heart/spirit/intellect conflict thing all sewn up, in a way that we struggle much more with today.
Yeah, your posts frequently remind me of how we come at these things not just from very different backgrounds but also in such very different ways (and I think essentially with different goals).
I'm working through quite a reading list at the moment, but I'm definitely interested in seeing how others have dealt with the intellect/faith conflict (especially since I've been disappointed in what little I've read in that vein so far -- all relatively contemporary people, so no worries about recommending me something I've already read). I'm pretty much always happy to acquiesce to the whole "I'd love to hear your thoughts on this" thing, and I don't foresee myself actually ceasing to engage with Christianity since I still wanna be able to make coherent arguments on the issues.
> > Recently I also keep getting rageful when I read my friends writing about religion (like, "zomg, you are so wrong") > Even me? O:) Actually I would be kind of flattered.
Of course including you. You're one of the few flisters who posts about religion. And flattered is so far from the reaction I was expecting, but I'll take it.
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Date: 2005-12-20 01:45 am (UTC)> Oh, dear Elizabeth. This is where it feels like our approaches to faith could never meet totally. Not that it's news to me, but it's always striking to me, when you say things like this, how different we are. Though I would like to suggest some Church Fathers for you to read 'cause I'd love to see what you make of their logic, and to me they had the heart/spirit/intellect conflict thing all sewn up, in a way that we struggle much more with today.
Yeah, your posts frequently remind me of how we come at these things not just from very different backgrounds but also in such very different ways (and I think essentially with different goals).
I'm working through quite a reading list at the moment, but I'm definitely interested in seeing how others have dealt with the intellect/faith conflict (especially since I've been disappointed in what little I've read in that vein so far -- all relatively contemporary people, so no worries about recommending me something I've already read). I'm pretty much always happy to acquiesce to the whole "I'd love to hear your thoughts on this" thing, and I don't foresee myself actually ceasing to engage with Christianity since I still wanna be able to make coherent arguments on the issues.
> > Recently I also keep getting rageful when I read my friends writing about religion (like, "zomg, you are so wrong")
> Even me? O:) Actually I would be kind of flattered.
Of course including you. You're one of the few flisters who posts about religion. And flattered is so far from the reaction I was expecting, but I'll take it.