We claim to be both Catholic — that is, true to the ancient Christian faith — and Protestant — truly reformed. I'm having a bit of a hard time swallowing this about the Anglican Communion in general, I have to admit. Was it really Catholic, not catholic? The latter I get, but...
We have no required confession of Faith, except the Apostles' Creed and Nicene Creed, 'Except' the Creeds? Um, those ARE confessions of faith...and pretty darn big ones!!!
However, if you have a cold or other communicable illness and prefer to intinct (that is, dip the bread in the wine), a small intinction cup is provided for that purpose. *thinks back to what Prof. Spinks said to us about how intinction is actually germier than using the shared cup--though I guess if they have a separate cup for that purpose, it isn't so bad.*
list hymnal page numbers in the bulletin but for some reason the hymnal doesn't give hymn titles Yeah, I dislike that about the Episcopal hymnal. Among other things, such as the fact I rarely recognize or like the hymns.
The choir processed in along with the minister and others, and it felt so High Church to me Yeah, St. John's is not so much with the processionals, which I'm kind of glad about.
The first bit of the service was the lighting of the Advent wreath. St. John's never did this! It was very sad...the Advent wreath was sitting up there each Sunday, all flamey, but no one paid any attention to it during the service.
The seminarian (from Harvard Div, natch) Boo. :)
Did you have to flip around in the BCP, or was most stuff printed in the bulletin? It doesn't sound like you had the Penitential Order at the beginning... How much kneeling was there? I'm just trying to get a feel for how different parishes' liturgies differ.
Ack, what is happening to me? Reading this I was all happy about the bits that felt familiar to me. They're MAKING ME ONE OF THEM. *flails half-heartedly* Though I don't mind that you weren't particularly impressed. I'm not convinced that, at this stage at least, I'm fond enough of the BCP and Episcopalianness in general that I'd seek out a parish other than St. John's, which is kind of a funny maverick parish as it is.
I also feel like I'm not allowed to quit yet, 'cause I was suppposed to read the New Testament full through and research the historical Jesus and the early Church and make an informed decision as to whether there was enough logic and evidence for me to make a faith leap. Oh, dear Elizabeth. This is where it feels like our approaches to faith could never meet totally. Not that it's news to me, but it's always striking to me, when you say things like this, how different we are. Though I would like to suggest some Church Fathers for you to read 'cause I'd love to see what you make of their logic, and to me they had the heart/spirit/intellect conflict thing all sewn up, in a way that we struggle much more with today.
Recently I also keep getting rageful when I read my friends writing about religion (like, "zomg, you are so wrong") Even me? O:) Actually I would be kind of flattered.
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We have no required confession of Faith, except the Apostles' Creed and Nicene Creed, 'Except' the Creeds? Um, those ARE confessions of faith...and pretty darn big ones!!!
However, if you have a cold or other communicable illness and prefer to intinct (that is, dip the bread in the wine), a small intinction cup is provided for that purpose. *thinks back to what Prof. Spinks said to us about how intinction is actually germier than using the shared cup--though I guess if they have a separate cup for that purpose, it isn't so bad.*
list hymnal page numbers in the bulletin but for some reason the hymnal doesn't give hymn titles Yeah, I dislike that about the Episcopal hymnal. Among other things, such as the fact I rarely recognize or like the hymns.
The choir processed in along with the minister and others, and it felt so High Church to me Yeah, St. John's is not so much with the processionals, which I'm kind of glad about.
The first bit of the service was the lighting of the Advent wreath.
St. John's never did this! It was very sad...the Advent wreath was sitting up there each Sunday, all flamey, but no one paid any attention to it during the service.
The seminarian (from Harvard Div, natch) Boo. :)
Did you have to flip around in the BCP, or was most stuff printed in the bulletin? It doesn't sound like you had the Penitential Order at the beginning... How much kneeling was there? I'm just trying to get a feel for how different parishes' liturgies differ.
Ack, what is happening to me? Reading this I was all happy about the bits that felt familiar to me. They're MAKING ME ONE OF THEM. *flails half-heartedly*
Though I don't mind that you weren't particularly impressed. I'm not convinced that, at this stage at least, I'm fond enough of the BCP and Episcopalianness in general that I'd seek out a parish other than St. John's, which is kind of a funny maverick parish as it is.
I also feel like I'm not allowed to quit yet, 'cause I was suppposed to read the New Testament full through and research the historical Jesus and the early Church and make an informed decision as to whether there was enough logic and evidence for me to make a faith leap. Oh, dear Elizabeth. This is where it feels like our approaches to faith could never meet totally. Not that it's news to me, but it's always striking to me, when you say things like this, how different we are. Though I would like to suggest some Church Fathers for you to read 'cause I'd love to see what you make of their logic, and to me they had the heart/spirit/intellect conflict thing all sewn up, in a way that we struggle much more with today.
Recently I also keep getting rageful when I read my friends writing about religion (like, "zomg, you are so wrong") Even me? O:) Actually I would be kind of flattered.