Ok... So the partial nudity I was hoping for was Fred but the shower scene didn't really cut it for me. <sigh>
As for allowing herself to be played by Spike, I disagree with you here. Perhaps I'm biased but I think she was using Spike as much as he was using her. Fred is very much a kid in the candy store and Spike gave her the opportunity to break most of the laws of nature. If she let's him "play" her then she gets to squee over the new toys. And she's running ragged not over Spike and his problem but over trying to solve a problem that it just happens that Spike has presented. Does that make sense?
Then there is Hell. I think Reaper made an interesting comment that you didn't touch on, namely that Vampires are not damned to Hell but Spike is 'cause he has a soul. All the demons that Buffy/Spike/Angel and crew have dusted cease to exist. When Spike or Angel dies they get to keep living in the eternal hereafter. Which raises the question of whether the soul was worth it for Spike. Angel could lose his again by subverting the curse but Spike's is his own to keep, no? As for whether saving the world is enough to escape Hell, that gets into a whole level of theology and religious beliefs that I'm not gonna touch in public.
And I have to agree with the Spike chemistry with everyone. Even on Buffy, Spike hit it off with everyone. You either loved him or hated him but all of the characters had feelings for him. Buffy-Wes was, well.... flat. He came into his own on Angel but he doesn't fire on all cylinders with Lorne or Fred.
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Date: 2003-10-23 07:20 am (UTC)As for allowing herself to be played by Spike, I disagree with you here. Perhaps I'm biased but I think she was using Spike as much as he was using her. Fred is very much a kid in the candy store and Spike gave her the opportunity to break most of the laws of nature. If she let's him "play" her then she gets to squee over the new toys. And she's running ragged not over Spike and his problem but over trying to solve a problem that it just happens that Spike has presented. Does that make sense?
Then there is Hell. I think Reaper made an interesting comment that you didn't touch on, namely that Vampires are not damned to Hell but Spike is 'cause he has a soul. All the demons that Buffy/Spike/Angel and crew have dusted cease to exist. When Spike or Angel dies they get to keep living in the eternal hereafter. Which raises the question of whether the soul was worth it for Spike. Angel could lose his again by subverting the curse but Spike's is his own to keep, no? As for whether saving the world is enough to escape Hell, that gets into a whole level of theology and religious beliefs that I'm not gonna touch in public.
And I have to agree with the Spike chemistry with everyone. Even on Buffy, Spike hit it off with everyone. You either loved him or hated him but all of the characters had feelings for him. Buffy-Wes was, well.... flat. He came into his own on Angel but he doesn't fire on all cylinders with Lorne or Fred.
-J