These types of conversations are not typically taking place between someone who is fat/obese and people who aren't, though. The girls who are size 0 and size 2 put on these acts about how they have to "be good"--meaning they have to eat only one piece of celery to show off how self-controlled they are--and they can't possibly "be bad" and eat an actual nutritious meal, even if small. These conversations are meant to keep everyone in line. IT really has NOTHING to do with "health" and all the excuses in the world make no difference at all.
Besides, if person X wants to order Y, what business is it of anyone's? Do they think she doesn't know she's fat?
If shame could make people thin, no one in this country would be fat. It is the final frontier of bigotry and putdowns. All this health talk is simply a new facade and disguise for the usual "fatty fatty 2x4" stuff. It's a "concerned and sooo niceypoo" way of poking and prodding someone so that others will feel superior to the "fattypoo." It's really a control issue.
I would like to lose more weight for various health reasons, and also because I'm tired of being hassled (I'm not hassled that much now that I am an old fossil and considered "Auntie Gramma" and so forth, but it hasn't disappeared). But all my efforts will be sabotaged if people carry on about Weight Watchers points and how awful it is of them to eat a piece of this or that, because that stuff is SO TRANSPARENTLY fishing for compliments and it makes me want to rebel. I am a born rebel and nonconformist in the true sense, and I have to struggle when I need to "conform" and do stuff just because people say I should or have to. "Teasing" as well as the Big Deal stuff is counterproductive for most of us.
And, again, most of this talk takes place among skinny girls who are somewhat malnourished, and mostly is aimed at girls who are just as thin or pretty much as thin. It's an attack to "subdue" those who might not be doing exactly what the crowd wants them to do. That's what it REALLY IS. Whatever you're doing for your own health, you're probably not enforcing on everyone--"DON'T DRINK THAT MILK! I'm lactose intolerant!" or whatever--and not being obnoxious. That's how you can tell if a person is actually dieting for health reasons OR is just playing this transactional analysis game with other women.
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That's not the point
Date: 2010-03-03 05:04 am (UTC)Besides, if person X wants to order Y, what business is it of anyone's? Do they think she doesn't know she's fat?
If shame could make people thin, no one in this country would be fat. It is the final frontier of bigotry and putdowns. All this health talk is simply a new facade and disguise for the usual "fatty fatty 2x4" stuff. It's a "concerned and sooo niceypoo" way of poking and prodding someone so that others will feel superior to the "fattypoo." It's really a control issue.
I would like to lose more weight for various health reasons, and also because I'm tired of being hassled (I'm not hassled that much now that I am an old fossil and considered "Auntie Gramma" and so forth, but it hasn't disappeared). But all my efforts will be sabotaged if people carry on about Weight Watchers points and how awful it is of them to eat a piece of this or that, because that stuff is SO TRANSPARENTLY fishing for compliments and it makes me want to rebel. I am a born rebel and nonconformist in the true sense, and I have to struggle when I need to "conform" and do stuff just because people say I should or have to. "Teasing" as well as the Big Deal stuff is counterproductive for most of us.
And, again, most of this talk takes place among skinny girls who are somewhat malnourished, and mostly is aimed at girls who are just as thin or pretty much as thin. It's an attack to "subdue" those who might not be doing exactly what the crowd wants them to do. That's what it REALLY IS. Whatever you're doing for your own health, you're probably not enforcing on everyone--"DON'T DRINK THAT MILK! I'm lactose intolerant!" or whatever--and not being obnoxious. That's how you can tell if a person is actually dieting for health reasons OR is just playing this transactional analysis game with other women.
Duh! I thought people already knew all this.