this is part of why GLBTA persons often have such difficulty sitting down with or listening to people who are all "love the sinner, hate the sin" -- because so often what they have encountered is "hate the sinner."

I probably should ponder more before commenting, but I've just about talked myself into heading out to do this afternoon's errands, and it's taken long enough to get myself to this stage, so:

For me, perhaps a part of it is "all we've seen is hate the sinner", but it's more than that. Being gay/queer/lesbian/whateverthehecklabel is part of who I am, and you (generic, obviously) can't actually separate that out. So the people who see the whateverthelabel as a sin hurt me just as much as those who see me being American as close enough to a sin... it's a part of me, and you can't separate those things out. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" is nonsense, because when who I am is the sin (to people) it simply doesn't make sense.